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HP Blades Day 2010: Final Thoughts


This is my 5th consecutive post on HP Blades day.  So far no videos have been uploaded, just the coverage of the event and pictures. This post primarily focuses on what I feel we saw at HP in terms of things that will help them, challenges in the market and where all this may go.

There has been at least 6 to 8 hours of video recording on my flip camera; starting tomorrow I will upload these videos only of the most interesting sessions on the blog.

Satellite View of HP Facilities in Houston, TX

The coverage of the event can also be found on Greg Knieriemen’s Infosmack Podcast on Storage Monkeys, here.

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Positives

This event was a very smart move by HP and as far as I can see they have exceeded their expectations with this event. Though I felt the twitter activity with HP Tech Day (Storage, #hptechday) was much higher than what we saw with this event HP Blades Day (Blades, #hpbladesday). Though the after discussions have taken over the blogging, twitter and the Internet press by surprise with the number of tweets, blogs and press articles written about this event.

Clearly for me this was a good platform to learn, understand and share some visions and technologies related to HP Blade products. I have been a storage focused individual, but only with a shallow knowledge of the blades architecture and infrastructure. This was a great event for myself to understand the depth of these products and take a deep dive into the interworking of converged infrastructure. An Event like this helps understand and connect the dots together with future products and emerging technologies. As this was a non-NDA event, we didn’t have preview to the next generation of HP Blade products.

One thing that is pretty visible and positive is that HP has managed to mobilize resources in the direction of integrating internal resources relating to converged infrastructure. Though its obvious and again visible that at places, they have not been able to fulfill that dream entirely.

There were some awkward moments where the engineering teams were asked to not do a deep-dive on other vendor technologies. The marketing folks spoke about some strategy related to these technologies and painted an overall picture. The mix of people involved with the presentations and demos seem to accomplish the agenda. Marketing pitches by social media and marketing teams along with engineering details by the architecture teams seemed to accomplish their goals.

The highlight of the sessions were a 45 min talk with the CTO of StorageWorks, Paul Perez and the competitive intelligence session that was hosted my Gary Thome and his team to compare HP Blades products with Dell, IBM and Cisco UCS. Discussions around CEE and Virtual Connect were pretty interesting.

HP emphasized the 250 million dollar investment with Microsoft over and over during the HP Blades Day. This proves that they value this partnership heavily and possibly have a roadmap associated in the future with great integration with Microsoft products.

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Challenges

HP emphasizes a lot on converged datacenters and the products it’s gearing for the next generation. But an integration vision from a convergence management was still lacking, a direction or a strategy on how these pieces of puzzle will be joined together and managed. HP clearly owns all the stacks of the next generation products, but again the orchestration and integration is one thing that is not very clear yet. Say too big and too much to manage!!!

With Networking products and the focus on Virtual Connect, HP seems to be moving in the right direction, but again when it comes to FCoE and CEE (Converged Enhanced Ethernet) the direction is pretty unknown. It’s sort of wait and watch as to where the market goes and drives demands, a lack of vision in real terms. HP clearly has a big competition from Cisco when it comes to the Networking stack.

With Storage products, HP clearly has a very big competition with already proven Vendors and their technologies like EMC, NetApp and IBM. Also technologies that are strong and emerging would largely cause market nuisance or focus disruption for HP.

With the Blade products, HP is a market leader, but truly considers Dell, IBM and Cisco as the biggest threats and sort of prepared to fight against it. Seems the next generation Rack and Blade products might seem to have a lot of integration with storage and networking.

The services story, with the acquisition of EDS, HP made a move in the right direction being the first in the market to do so. With the latest acquisitions from Dell of Perot Systems, from Oracle of SUN Microsystems and by Xerox of ACS, large vendors are all trying to fulfill the services gap. HP clearly has a big competition with IBM and Oracle in the space.

The VCE (VMware, Cisco, EMC) coalition: What are your thoughts. It’s pretty amazing to see HP not mention the word ‘cloud’ these two days. Focus has been virtualization and the partnership with VMware, but really no focus on moving toward utility market and integration of all next gen products for converged datacenters with the underlying virtualization layer. May be the Microsoft partnership may fulfill this.

VMware or Microsoft: They didn’t say this, but seems something is cooking. The partnership with Microsoft and the investment of 250 million dollars will create some friction with VMware, at least my guess. Next gen products may utilize Hyper-V as an underlying virtualization layer rather than using the default VMware Hypervisor.

HP still needs a very strong storage technology in the Enterprise space that is their own and not OEM’d. The truth is, eventually the HP – Hitachi relationship has to come to an end with HP’s new product that may compete in the same market space. This strategy will enable HP to be very unique in terms of the markets they serve, which may include their own in-house storage products for SMB, Midsize and Enterprise customers.

So other lacking things from HP were the Cloud Strategy (if they ever plan to enter that space), FCoE discussions, Procurve and Storage Management as it relates to Insight Software.

It may have been very hard to cover all these platforms in a day and a half with giving all the technology details behind it. Also remember this was a non-NDA session, so we were not preview to all the future products and technologies.

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Summary

Overall HP did hammer us for 2 consecutive days with HP Blades Technology. Coming out of it, I can truly say, HP had so much focus on datacenter convergence. Their move to hire Dave Donatelli was a smart one many of his strategic moves and direction in the ESSN (Enterprise Servers, Storage and Networking) are pretty visible now.

Apart from GestaltIT Techfield Day, HP is still the only OEM to arrange Bloggers Invite Only Event. The ratio of Bloggers to HP Personnel was 1:2, giving everyone a lot of attention.

Now the question is who will be next OEM to do a similar event and what will they do to prove themselves different. Already hearing some buzz in the industry about some the effects of HP Blades Day and some possible events from other OEMs.

But I clearly see an advantage of an event like this and the after effects of it, good move HP Marketing Team! Along with Ivy Worldwide!!

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Disclaimer: This event is sponsored by HP and hosted in Houston, TX. HP paid all the flight, living and mostly food expenses. This is a bloggers – invitation only event. No products have been given by HP.

I totally love my Drobo but….

November 25th, 2009 Devang Panchigar View Comments

I totally love my Drobo but….I have to honestly say, its missing some key features…

So over the past two days, I have covered the Drobo technology pretty extensively, all the way from the introduction of the 2 new Drobo’s to what the technology offers today, configuration, setup, overhead, data protection, etc.

There is a collaborative effort ongoing behind the scenes with the GestaltIT Tech Field Day Delegates working on some BeyondRAID technology blog posts.

Here are the previous blog posts on Drobo Technology….

Drobo S and DroboElite – Introduced 11/23/2009

Some very interesting articles on Drobo S and DroboElite

The Drobo Math

DROBO / DROBO S

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Though I think the Drobo technology (BeyondRAID) is a pretty solid offering in the industry today, there are some very features that at least the Drobo and Drobo S are missing today.

Note: This is not a comparison of the Drobo to any other industry products, but certainly some items mentioned below would help further drive the value of the Drobo from a consumer’s viewpoint.

  • Enable NAS support (Ethernet). A very important feature that is missing today related to the NAS offerings, a ton of new features could be easily introduced in the Drobo if it was NAS enabled.
  • Drobo manageable through the Ethernet
  • Drobo and the data on the Drobo should be password protected
  • Support for iSCSI
  • Multiple host access, with multiple user access for NAS.
  • File shares based on usernames and passwords.
  • Haven’t yet tried this, but connect a Drobo or a Drobo S behind an Iomega Ix4-200d or a Synology NAS device to natively use the features supported within those devices and use the Drobo’s BeyondRAID technology in the backend.
  • Built in FTP Server
  • Built in Photo Sharing
  • Built in iTunes Library
  • Built in internal mail server (not a must have, but good to have feature)
  • Built in web server for web hosting
  • NAS Shares
  • Active Directory authentication for users on the Drobo
  • Some sort of high-speed expansion to connect between multiple Drobo’s using a 1GB interface or higher, in short some sort of expandable Drobo daisy chain.
  • USB Printer connection
  • Spin down drives if no activity
  • Spin down fans if no activity
  • Spin down and spin up the Drobo based on time of the day
  • Some sort of interface to view activity inside the Drobo related to memory, CPU and other components.
  • Safe eject drives before drive replacements or drive upgrades
  • Some sort of integration with various media appliances from a household including playstation, TiVo, live streaming that would enable data sharing between these devices.

I understand the value Drobo and Drobo S brings on the table with the BeyondRAID technology, but to compete in the consumer (home) market, a device can’t just be a single standalone device and not talk to any other devices in the environment.

We are collecting data at an enormous pace today, but as I say, “We are” indeed means a group of individuals, family, friends. There is just no way to collaborate on the collected data without physically moving the Drobo from place to place and computer to computer for data share.

I totally get the picture of what the Drobo and Drobo S brings on the table, but if I have to spend $800 or around that number to buy a storage unit, I absolutely think it should talk to and share my data between multiple computers, users, appliances, gadgets I have in the household.

There is only one option I can think that would enable NAS data share, which is to use the Drobo behind a DroboShare or a traditional NAS.. Though not sure if it loses any of it’s features by doing so. This option will cost you additional money.

DroboPro / DroboElite

Lets talk a bit about the DroboPro and DroboElite. These products are made for SMB space. They offer great features including having 2 x 1 Gigabit Ethernet, iSCSI support, VMware support, 16 host, 255 smart volumes, etc. The price on the DroboPro / DroboElite is way beyond what a consumer (home) will spend for data storage.


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Though here is a short list of items I think the DroboPro and DroboElite should have.

  • Removable back-panel to replace power supplies without turning the unit offline.
  • Online replacement of any FRU’s.
  • Redundant power supplies.
  • DroboPro / DroboElite manageable through the Ethernet
  • DroboPro / DroboElite and the data on the unit should be password protected
  • Multiple user access to NAS Shares
  • Active Directory integration for user authentication
  • Built in FTP Server
  • Built in internal mail server
  • Built in web server for web hosting
  • Spin down drives with no activity
  • Spin down fans with no activity
  • At least support 15 drives.
  • Expandable to may be 30 drives through some sort of high-speed bus/loop/port connect.
  • SCSI 3 PGR’s
  • Some sort of management interface to better manage the components, processes, activities, CPU, memory, stats (Read/Write I/O), port stats, etc through this interface
  • Safe eject drives before drive replacements or drive upgrades.

Again the argument stays that the DroboPro and DroboElite offers great technology, plug and play features, VMware compatibility, lower cost and BeyondRAID technology, but are those the only features that I am truly looking from a SAN.

One thing I have learned, it’s hard to survive in the home (consumer) market and SMB space with the same product name. At times its better to have two distinct products one defined for consumer market while the other for the SMB space. The product can still be the same product under-the-hood but with different processing powers and different product names.

Just some thoughts!! IMHO

DROBO S and DROBO Elite – Introduced 11/23/2009

November 23rd, 2009 Devang Panchigar View Comments

As most of you know, DROBO has been in the market for the past couple of years. There are three primary units that Data Robotics has in the industry today. The DROBO – 4 Drive Unit, DROBO Pro – 8 Drive Unit and DROBO Share that enables you to connect two DROBO’s and run community designed applications.

As of 11/23/2009, there are two new DROBO devices being introduced, the DROBO S and DROBO ElIte.

Both these DROBO’s will compete in the similar market space of its predecessors, but has additional features compared to the DROBO and DROBO Pro devices.

The big marketing buzz Data Robotics uses with it products today is “Set it, Forget it”. Data Robotics has designed a technology called BeyondRAID that in essence is a self-healing storage solution. The market space that DROBO and DROBO Pro’s compete today is the home and SMB space.

Introducing DROBO S and DROBO ELITE: Movie by StorageNerve

Song: Blue Theme (Movie: Blue)

DROBO S FEATURES:

Connectivity to Host

USB 2.0 Connectivity

Firewire 800 / 400 Connectivity – 25% faster than USB 2.0

e-SATA Connectivity – 50% faster than Firewire

Drives

DROBO supported 4 drives, the DROBO S now supports 5 drives, expanding total storage to 10 TB’s.

Supports different drive sizes.

Supports failure of 2 drives in the unit with no Data loss.

Self-healing technology supported as a core feature within DROBO S.

Different drive speeds and different cache on drive supported within the unit.

SATA – I and SATA – II drives supported.

OS

Windows – Win XP and Win 2003 onwards

MAC  -- MAC OS X 10.5.6 onwards

Linux

Filesystems

HFS+

NTFS

FAT32

EXT3

Markets

Home User

Desktop Use in SMB space.

Power Save Mode

Seems like when you disconnect the DROBO S from a connected host, it enters in power save mode.

Upgrades

No Downtime with drive upgrades.

No Downtime with drive failure – upto 2.

No Downtime with new drive installations.

Take drives out of DROBO and plug them into DROBO S for data in-place upgrade.

For Home and SMB use it lacks the following

Entertainment – Photo Library, iTunes Library, FTP Support, NAS Support, Ethernet Support, iSCSI, AD integration, Turn off / on at a certain time of the day.

Technology

Technology Drobo S

Technology Drobo S

DROBO ELITE FEATURES

DROBO ELITE offers 50% faster throughput compared to DROBO Pro.

Connectivity to Host

USB 2.0 Connectivity (For Management only)

2 x Gigabit Ethernet

iSCSI Support

Upto 255 Host Volumes – (From Common Pool of storage – like Thin Provisioning)

Upto 16 host systems supported

Drives

DROBO ELITE supports 8 drives, expanding total storage to 16 TB’s.

Supports different drive sizes

Supports failure of 2 drives in the unit with no Data loss

Self-healing technology supported as a core feature within DROBO Elite

Different drive speeds and different cache on drive supported within the unit

SATA – I and SATA – II drives supported

OS

Windows – Win XP and Win 2003 onwards

MAC  -- MAC OS X 10.5.6 onwards

Linux

Vmware ESX 3.5 and V-Sphere support

Filesystems

HFS+

NTFS

FAT32

EXT3

VMFS

Markets

SMB Market

Server Consolidation

Multiple Server Support

Vmware Support

Upgrades

No Downtime with drive upgrades

No Downtime with drive failure – upto 2

No Downtime with new drive installations.

Take drives out of DROBO PRO and plug them into DROBO ELITE for data in-place upgrade

Technology

DROBO ELITE

DROBO ELITE

I particularly like the self-healing no maintenance, no setup configuration. It has a great feature of plug it in, forget it…

I will start using the DROBO this week and hopefully be able to write more about the underlying technology, stay tuned!!!

GestaltIT Techfieldday 2009: Post 8 (Day 1)

November 16th, 2009 Devang Panchigar View Comments

Today marks the first day of the two day GestaltIT Techfieldday 2009. As described on previous blog posts, this is a very unique event and will be an industry trendsetter. A very nice blog post by John Troyer from Vmware describing GestaltIT #Techfieldday and the wave it is creating in the industry, here

We had an action filled day today, 18 hours of non-stop techno-geek talk so far.

Vmware

The day started early morning today at 7 AM, we all left to go to Vmware first, where Xsigo Systems and MDS Micro were presenting. Expectations with both these presentations were very high, and they absolutely managed to deliver on it.

Met up with John Troyer first at Vmware headquarters in Palo Alto, CA. The bus took us from the hotel to Vmware and will be the means of transportation throughout the event. After a great breakfast this morning, they gave us a tour of the Vmworld DataCenter -- Lab (hundreds of VM’s running within a single cabinet with Clariion, Xsigo, MDS running as a Converged Infrastructure).

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Then we went for a walk around the Vmware campus to another building where the event was being hosted. Walking there, we ended up taking some funny pictures…

Simon Seagrave

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Greg Knieriemen

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Then Stephen Foskett took the stage to present us on the concept of GestaltIT TechFieldday 2009. He then passed on the mic to John Toor from Xsigo Systems who explained us the agenda for the rest of the morning.

MDS Micro

MDS Micro took the stage and went through the entire set of technical marketing presentation on the MDS Micro set of products and how the blocks compete in a converged infrastructure. Quite a compelling story from MDS.

Then Vmware took the stage next, the group called GETO (Global Engineering Technical Operations). These are the guys that worked on designing the Datacenter at Vmworld 2009. On a dinner table in Florida, they created the concept of the next datacenter at Vmworld 2009. Amazing 45 min technology talk.

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Xsigo

Then Xsigo took the stage. Wow…..what a presentation, Cam Ford from Xsigo was on the stage, this guy has a passion and believed in what he was presenting. I was really really impressed.

At times its just not only walking up to the stage and presenting on a technology, believing in something and presenting the technology is completely different. That is exactly what we saw with this presentation. Tons of questions were asked and Cam Ford was able to answer each one of them……..Loved the techno talk. I am now believing that Xsigo will in a short duration be a take over target. They have a great technology in their hands.

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3Par

Had lunch at Vmware and then we all headed to 3Par. Now after the Xsigo presentation, we were expecting a lot from 3Par.

Craig Nunes, Marc Farley and John D’Avolio were at the 3Par lobby to receive us as we reached to their headquarters.

We were looking for the famous Pooja Desai -- the “Check it out Girl” from the StorageRap Videos and the joke @edsai made on the Infosmack -- Storage Monkeys -- Vmware Wrap up Podcast.

3Par brought in Siamak Nazari on the stage to talk about various 3Par technologies.

This guy was amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One thing I would like to emphasize again, please make sure all the presenters for the GestaltIT #techfieldday are technology experts. We need to talk to “the best of the breed”, I have typically seen based on all the presentations at GestaltIT Techfieldday and HPTechday so far that the engineering / technical marketing folks have been very well received amongst the audience. There are aways people in the group ready to chew the presenter if they are not aware of the technology they are presenting on.

Siamak Nazari started the presentation and within a few mins, had questions from the audience, but he started going into details, white boarding, diagrams, explaining chunklets, buses, clusters, software, architecture and he won everyone in the room. This presentation was scheduled for about 45 mins, but by the time the presentation was done, we were well over 90 mins.

Its hard to write about the technology in one blog post and will not be fair to 3Par and its technology. So what i will do is provide you all with a detailed architectural overview of the 3Par technology over next couple of weeks, showing a video of the presentation and the architecture around the 3Par clusters.

Siamak Nazari wanted to go into a lot of details, but i believe since this was a non NDA session, the folks in the room had to stop him going into architecture and futures.

Then Craig Nunes along with Marc Farley presented on the 3Par Thin Technology and Zero Page reclaimation. I truly believe they have a great team of people there that are driving the product.

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We then went to the 3Par Test and Development labs. This lab has to at least be warehousing about 200 to 300 3Par systems. At times it is great breathing the data center air…..

Symantec

Then Symantec took the stage with its Storage Foundations suite. Some nice technical chat around filesystems, how Symantec integrates with 3Par for Zero page reclaimation, how customers can drive the storage they already have in data centers with the use of Storage Foundations suite. There were quite a few questions asked and contradictions made in this presentation, where the GestaltIT Bloggers didn’t understand the complete strategy of Symantec in relation to Storage Foundations product. Though from my perspective I felt it was a complete solution but not a lot of market applicability.

GestaltIT Party

We then left there to head to the Computer history Museum in San Jose for the GestaltIT Party. What a crowd of people there. This event was sponsored by TechValidate (Brad O’Neil’s new venture). Tons of people from various Tech PR companies, HP, Nirvanix, 3Par, Vmware, Data Robotics, Ocarina Networks, Bhava Communications, MDS Micro and many more were present.

Met up with Murli, CEO from Ocarina Networks, he is just a magnificent personality. Very humble and approachable. Met up with Brad O’Neil and many others from the Storage industry.

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Then was the video presentation by Sunshine Mugrabi and Marc Farley as a tribute to Stephen Foskett. This is a great video.

The Bar

We then headed back to the hotel…..the night was just beginning. At the bar, people were just dissecting everything that they had heard today and putting it into perspective.

Around 2 AM in the morning the night finally finishes (at least for me) and looking forward for a new day tomorrow, more TECHNO-GEEK talk to continue…..

My eyes are barely staying up now, All I can say is Goodnight!!!!!!!